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Wiener
[At Pylos] Tablets originally appear to have listed around 400 bronzesmiths distributed over many locations, but only a small amount of copper is assigned to each bronzesmith, raising the possibility of a copper shortage at that moment. (p 18)
11th/10th century elaborate cremations for warrior elite only? (Toumba burial) p 29
LH IIIB1 earthquake at Mycenae, nearly every building destroyed and rebuilt (ca. 1240)
Basedow
Iron Age occupation of Troy
she cites Blegen and Korfmann on the projectile points at Troy VIIa, but she thinks they (at least the ones she found in the shrine, are later votive offerings)
says Troy VI earthquake is unproven, unsupported, (contra Rutter "most authorities feel confident in identifying as a massive earthquake")
treaty of Alaksandus of Wilusa, the Hittites threaten them with destruction if they misbehave
shortly thereafter, destruction at Troy and Miletus
she thinks the Hittites, with all their allies, are responsible
Morris
Bronze Age stelai
Iron Age temples, which she argues are to Poseidon and Apollo
both reflect ritual concern to protect the walls
Locrians send tribute of maidens to serve in cult at Troy
Watrous
With the establishment of an empire in the early XVIII Dynasty, Egyptian tombs often depict emissaries from foreign lands. In keeping with the imperial view of Egypt as the center of the world, tomb scenes show foreigners from this perspective, namely: Libyans from the west appear on the west wall of the tomb, Nubians from the south are on the south wall, Syrians and Canaanites, who arrived in Egypt from the east, are placed on the east wall. As Robins points out, this organization has a religious origin, for it guaranteed the tomb owner the continuing order of the cosmos created by the Egyptian empire. For this reason, one suspects the concept of programmatic organization came from Egypt to the Aegean, not the other way around.
author is comparing the Fleet Fresco at Akrotiri to the Odyssey
Whittaker
the depiction on a red-figured stamnos which shows two epic heroes, one of whom is identified as Hector, fighting over a sacrificed ram. [Beazley, Attic Red-Figure Vase Painters 1963). The vase is in the Basel Antikenmuseum. The other warrior is identified as Achilles by Beazley as the other side of the vase depicts the mission to Achilles described in Book Nine of the Iliad. A Griffiths "A Ram called Patroklos", BICS 32 (1985), however, has argued that the other warrior is Ajax, and that the scene shows the battle for the corpse of Patroklos; he suggests that there was a variant story in which the gods substituted a ram for Patroklos just before he was killed. A fragment of a red-figure calyx krater in the J Paul Getty museum which shows a ram being sacrificed in the upper zone, and two warriors lifting the body of a dead comrade in the lower zone may also draw an explicit parallel between death in battle and sacrifice.
shaft grave materials - make spreadsheet
Battle Krater is really interesting
Perna
diptych at Uluburun (late 14th century)
Dickinson
The Trojan War tradition shows no knowledge of the Hittites at all. In that respect, again, it fits Greek tradition generally, which shows no knowledge of any dominant people in the Near East before the Assyrians, or in Asia Minor specifically before the Phrygians.
The Trojan Network of alliances even seems to take in Lesbos, reported as sacked by Achilles in Iliad 9, as is Skyros--remarkably, when both are within the Mycenaean sphere archaeologically.
But contrast Wiener, "Whether the island of Lesbos is also a candidate merits separate consideration. On the one hand, the texts cited indicate that Lazpa was clearly a part of the Hittite Empire when the letters were written. In the Iliad, Achilles refers to Lesbos as the farthest outpost of Priam's kingdom. N. Spencer summarizes the results of his archaeological explorations of Lesbos as indicating that Lesbos was "very much an extension of the Anatolian cultural tradition both before, and even after, the arrival of the Aiolian Greeks." On the other hand, R. Janko reports that "in the Museum at Mytilene I saw good Anatolian wares from the east coast (Thermi), but good LH IIIB from the Gulf of Kallone; the Anatolian disappears in LH IIIC, whereas Apotheka is an entirely Helladic settlement, with LH IIIC tombs (pers. comm., Ephor of Lesvos). The conquest of Lesbos was, I ssupect, the most lasting result of the Trojan War" (but cf. below).
[At Pylos] Tablets originally appear to have listed around 400 bronzesmiths distributed over many locations, but only a small amount of copper is assigned to each bronzesmith, raising the possibility of a copper shortage at that moment. (p 18)
11th/10th century elaborate cremations for warrior elite only? (Toumba burial) p 29
LH IIIB1 earthquake at Mycenae, nearly every building destroyed and rebuilt (ca. 1240)
Basedow
Iron Age occupation of Troy
she cites Blegen and Korfmann on the projectile points at Troy VIIa, but she thinks they (at least the ones she found in the shrine, are later votive offerings)
says Troy VI earthquake is unproven, unsupported, (contra Rutter "most authorities feel confident in identifying as a massive earthquake")
treaty of Alaksandus of Wilusa, the Hittites threaten them with destruction if they misbehave
shortly thereafter, destruction at Troy and Miletus
she thinks the Hittites, with all their allies, are responsible
Morris
Bronze Age stelai
Iron Age temples, which she argues are to Poseidon and Apollo
both reflect ritual concern to protect the walls
Locrians send tribute of maidens to serve in cult at Troy
Watrous
With the establishment of an empire in the early XVIII Dynasty, Egyptian tombs often depict emissaries from foreign lands. In keeping with the imperial view of Egypt as the center of the world, tomb scenes show foreigners from this perspective, namely: Libyans from the west appear on the west wall of the tomb, Nubians from the south are on the south wall, Syrians and Canaanites, who arrived in Egypt from the east, are placed on the east wall. As Robins points out, this organization has a religious origin, for it guaranteed the tomb owner the continuing order of the cosmos created by the Egyptian empire. For this reason, one suspects the concept of programmatic organization came from Egypt to the Aegean, not the other way around.
author is comparing the Fleet Fresco at Akrotiri to the Odyssey
Whittaker
the depiction on a red-figured stamnos which shows two epic heroes, one of whom is identified as Hector, fighting over a sacrificed ram. [Beazley, Attic Red-Figure Vase Painters 1963). The vase is in the Basel Antikenmuseum. The other warrior is identified as Achilles by Beazley as the other side of the vase depicts the mission to Achilles described in Book Nine of the Iliad. A Griffiths "A Ram called Patroklos", BICS 32 (1985), however, has argued that the other warrior is Ajax, and that the scene shows the battle for the corpse of Patroklos; he suggests that there was a variant story in which the gods substituted a ram for Patroklos just before he was killed. A fragment of a red-figure calyx krater in the J Paul Getty museum which shows a ram being sacrificed in the upper zone, and two warriors lifting the body of a dead comrade in the lower zone may also draw an explicit parallel between death in battle and sacrifice.
shaft grave materials - make spreadsheet
Battle Krater is really interesting
Perna
diptych at Uluburun (late 14th century)
Dickinson
The Trojan War tradition shows no knowledge of the Hittites at all. In that respect, again, it fits Greek tradition generally, which shows no knowledge of any dominant people in the Near East before the Assyrians, or in Asia Minor specifically before the Phrygians.
The Trojan Network of alliances even seems to take in Lesbos, reported as sacked by Achilles in Iliad 9, as is Skyros--remarkably, when both are within the Mycenaean sphere archaeologically.
But contrast Wiener, "Whether the island of Lesbos is also a candidate merits separate consideration. On the one hand, the texts cited indicate that Lazpa was clearly a part of the Hittite Empire when the letters were written. In the Iliad, Achilles refers to Lesbos as the farthest outpost of Priam's kingdom. N. Spencer summarizes the results of his archaeological explorations of Lesbos as indicating that Lesbos was "very much an extension of the Anatolian cultural tradition both before, and even after, the arrival of the Aiolian Greeks." On the other hand, R. Janko reports that "in the Museum at Mytilene I saw good Anatolian wares from the east coast (Thermi), but good LH IIIB from the Gulf of Kallone; the Anatolian disappears in LH IIIC, whereas Apotheka is an entirely Helladic settlement, with LH IIIC tombs (pers. comm., Ephor of Lesvos). The conquest of Lesbos was, I ssupect, the most lasting result of the Trojan War" (but cf. below).
